Rational Scientific Theories from Theism

The Connection between Mind and Body
in Theistic Physics

The Problem

The possibility of a causal connection between mind and body is most controversial from the scientific point of view, especially as in theistic science we claim that minds and bodies are different kinds of substances. Even given the proposal that minds and bodies are successive discrete degrees, it is still a mystery to know where and how the mind and body inter-relate, and to know how possible connections are compatible (if at all) with the 'causal completeness of the physical world' that many scientists strongly uphold, and with e.g. the principle of conservation of energy.

'Formative Degree' in nature?

In the physics section on formative processes, we discussed the possibility of a third degree in nature that generates the Lagrangian for virtual field processes, and also perhaps produces the dynamical 'curved space' in which these operate (the curvature being gravitational effect). This degree would be a kind of 'third quantisation' of quantum gravity.

Now, the theory of discrete degrees in theistic science suggests a new and specific role for this third level of processes. According to the general theory of natural processes, this third degree is labelled as 3.1 -  the 'effects of ends' degree - that is responsible for the reception of loves (and all mental causes) in nature. In theistic science we know that there must be some degree with this role, and, moreover, because of correspondences with other parallel degrees (e.g 2.1), this is not idle speculation but the beginning of a deduction from theistic principles of the general properties of this formative degree.

What we can deduce about the formative degree and mind-nature connections

From correspondences with other degrees, we make begin to make deductions along the following lines:

  • The formative degree describes a level of 'pre-geometric' processes whose evolution produces the dynamical properties of curved spacetime.
  • This degree (3.1) has three successive steps: 
    1. a operational principle (3.11)
    2. dynamical processes (3.12)
    3. definite effects (3.13) which produce spacetime and the field-theoretic Lagrangians (3.21).
  • The operational principle (3.11) is analogous to 2.11 (receptions in the internal rational), and therefore is strongly dependent on spiritual and mental causes. That is, the laws that formative processes follow should be dependent on spiritual influx from the exterior mind (principally the outmost part of this: the 2.33 degree where sensorimotor effects are manifest). The evolution laws do not follow fixed mathematical principles.
  • The dynamical processes are the evolution of substances which could be called 'the purest things in nature', and are partially 'outside' spacetime. They may be called 'pre-geometric', in the sense of generating geometry.
  • The events in 3.13 must satisfy the following properties deduced from theistic science
    • they must give semi-permanent structures fulfil the role of what Swedenborg calls the 'limbus': that part of nature that is permanent retained to eternity and is used to fix and terminate spiritual processes after the normal termination structure is no longer functional (after death of the body).
    • they must generate geometry dynamically. This may be done globally for the entire physical universe, or may be done to generate local segments as are manifest in the spiritual world.
    • the generated geometric spaces have a metric that is, in general, non-trivial. 
    • the metric of the segments in the spiritual world is determine by loves and their similarities.
  • The events in 3.13 must satisfy the following properties in order to match up with today's physics:
    1. they must generate the space time dynamically,
    2. they may well be the global 'spontaneous symmetry breaking' events that must have uniform effects across the whole universe, for example
      • events to select a particular quantum branch of the early universe after the big bang,
      • events to select a particular global non-zero field value for generating eg Goldstone bosons, 
    3. the metric of the physical world is determined by mass-energy densities and their similarities.

We can see a general correspondence between the effects of love and of gravity on the local spacetime metrics ('like attracts like' in both cases), but not yet the details of their universal principles which would allow us to deduce relevant dynamical features.

What will the influx theory look like?

We anticipate from Swedenborg's insights and empirical observations that a developed theory of influx (building on the above starting points) will have the following features:
  • the influx of mental effects will not be into a specific place in the world or in the living body, but will be into wherever particular functions are being performed (see discussion of correspondences).
  • most influx will be to sustain 'normal' biological, physiological and psychological functions, this having the effect, because these functions follow rather close sequences, of requiring the mental degrees giving the influx to also follow similar close sequences. This is desired, because in this way the spiritual substances are kept in relatively permanent forms.
  • influx following even more close sequences is responsible for sensory processes, where mental content is made to follow physical processes in the sensory cortices rather strictly.
  • only specific kinds of influx will change physical processes to otherwise than we will normally expect. These are principally the influx from the outmost part of the exterior mind, from the 2.33 degree where motor effects are manifest. That is why the 2.33 level is called a 'motor' degree.
  • (we see from this that the 2.33 'sensorimotor' degree already has multiple functions: sensations, ultimate decisions, and motor transmissions, which remain to be determined from its further substructures and subdegrees 2.331 - 2.333)
There is preliminary discussion of some of these issues in my earlier paper.
Further speculative comments concerning possible details, following the ideas above, are given on another page.

14 July 2001

www.TheisticScience.org Author: Ian J. Thompson, Email: IanT at TheisticScience.org